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43 responses

  1. Amy James
    June 21, 2015

    Great job.

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  2. Kate Saili
    June 21, 2015

    #3 is a big one. cool website. thanks for addressing this issue!

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    • Pete
      June 21, 2015

      Thanks. Please spread the word. Lord-willing, many others will start addressing it, too!

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  3. Britney Farrington
    June 21, 2015

    Crying shame

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  4. Anna
    June 21, 2015

    Thank you so, so much for this article!

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  5. Jennifer Calandra
    July 17, 2015

    Nonsense!

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  6. Vicki Mayefski
    June 21, 2015

    Poor little guy

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  7. Lena Taylor
    June 21, 2015

    There is no excuse for this child being taken away from his mother and given to the abusive father, regardless of any religion instead of silencing yourselves u christians should be up in arms over the decision of this judge, shame on you, hows a blog or GOD gonna help this boy the law cant( look at the judges actions) i only hope the doctors keep refusing this surgery!! Disgusting 🙁

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    • Pete
      June 21, 2015

      There is no excuse, you’re right.

      But some Christians are in fact “up in arms” and speaking out – it’s just that most Christians (like most non-Christians) are keeping noticeably silent. The purpose of this post is to encourage those of us who have remained silent to speak out.

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  8. Lena Taylor
    June 21, 2015

    3 billion christians in the world is there a petition on this injustice??

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  9. Roger DesMoulins
    July 1, 2015

    Church bodies and theologians are very selective in the injustices they criticise. No branch of Christianity in North America has deplored the North American fashion of routine infant circumcision. I know of no denomination that has rebuked ministers who preach that circumcision is a virtuous act for Christians. I conclude that Christian denominations and theologians are deeply afraid of being branded as antisemitic by rabbis and B’nai Brith. There is also a growing fear of provoking conflict with Moslems. Finally, most polite educated people are made very uncomfortable by a conversation focused on the most sexual part of the male body, the tip of the penis.

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  10. Matt Enrico Joseph
    June 21, 2015
  11. Renita Hoblit
    June 21, 2015

    We are getting scarily close to loosing our freedom of making our own decisions..

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    • roger desmoulins
      December 10, 2015

      Please understand that giving parents the “freedom” to decide how a son’s penis shall look and function, takes that same freedom away from the man their son will grow up to be.
      I simply do not believe that parents have a right to alter, irreversibly, how their son’s and the future spouses thereof, will experience intimacy.

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  12. Helena Yablon Leffingwell
    June 22, 2015

    Whoever wrote this article is extremely ignorant!!!!! Circumcision done the right, biblical way (at 8 days for all uniformed people of this post) is healthy and prevents disease.
    It should be “little minds. Org”! Not “little images”! Smh!
    Real Christians have way bigger fish to fry then this

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    • Pete
      June 22, 2015

      Dear Helena,
      This article refers to many sources: Christian authors, Jewish sources, doctors, scholars, historians, etc. It is well-researched and worth reading. But do you have any sources for the common myths (“biblical” and “healthy”) you’re repeating here? I address these directly in the article (see points 1 and 2 and point 6). For more sources, see https://www.littleimages.org/origin

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    • Sylvia RN MSN NP-C
      June 24, 2015

      Helena, it appears that you are the completely uneducated on on biblical circumcision. Biblical circumcision removed hardly any part of the prepuce (foreskin). The modern version (complete removal) was not invented until years after Christ’s death, and would have resulted in much higher death rate/infections. None of the Biblical patriarchs were cut in the modern version.
      Also, God created us in His image, and said that his creation is good! We as Christians should NOT be practicing Old Covenant commands- such as stoning of rebellious children or performing animal sacrifices. God gets no glory out of these. Under the New Covenant, Christ’s blood and our baptism are the sign that we are in covenant with God. Paul even warns to watch out for “evil dogs who mutilate the flesh” (In Philippians). Pretty strong words against those who encourage circumcision.
      God did NOT design the human body with any mistakes. He designed our bodies, EVERY PART, perfectly, with purpose and function. It makes NO sense to cut a healthy body part off.
      I encourage you to do more reading. Most Christians in America are sadly misinformed about circumcision. Circumcision is NOT recommended by world health authorities, and MOST of the world’s men are happily intact!

      http://www.drmomma.org/2010/07/biblical-circumcision-information.html

      http://domesticgeekgirl.com/faith-2/christian-parents-circumcise-infant-sons/

      http://www.circumcision.org/studies.htm

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    • Sylvia RN MSN NP-C
      June 24, 2015

      By the way, cutting off healthy functional tissue is NOT “healthy and prevents disease”. Women get breast cancer at a rate of 1 in 8. Men get penile cancer at a rate of 1 in 100,000! The USA has the highest rates of HIV of any industrialized nation, as well as the highest circumcision rate besides Israel. I assure you, men in Europe, Australia, Canada, South America and Asia are NOT walking around with horrible diseases from having their intact bodies!
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201109/more-circumcision-myths-you-may-believe-hygiene-and-stds

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    • Hans Castorp
      June 25, 2015

      Helena: As discussed in the blog post, the “biblical way” did not include laying bare the glans as is currently practiced.

      The last I looked, there was an entire aisle in my local supermarket devoted to feminine hygiene with no male equivalent. So perhaps we really should be cutting girls instead of boys? Hygiene is often cited as a reason for female genital cutting in societies that practice it.

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  13. Jennifer Calandra
    June 22, 2015

    Helena, Is name calling part of your religion? If your going to preach Christianity why not act like it too? Just Sayin.

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  14. Jennifer Calandra
    June 22, 2015

    Also did you happen to see the website? I saw there is an entire section about girls whos genitals are mutilated. Is that not on your agenda as a christian? You may not share the same opinion as the author but resulting to name calling isnt apart of the Christianty that I live. 🙂

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  15. Lena Taylor
    June 22, 2015

    Helena in the name of your religion and god have u had any of your body parts or excess skin removed i presume not u babble utter rubbish! This is a child u fool who has no say or choice in what happens to him geta life and pray to god for your stupid comment!

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  16. Greg Cook
    June 22, 2015

    Maybe so many people are silent because it’s not that big of a deal. Of course Christians love the smallest of issues concerning Christian persecution, it gives them something to bond over. I was circumsized and I’m fine. Many bigger problems going on than A little boys custody battle. “Amputation” seriously it’s like 1 inch of foreskin. Smh.

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    • littleimages
      June 22, 2015

      And maybe they’re silent because they believe that. What’s removed nowadays becomes, in the adult, roughly 15 square inches of tissue (about the area of the face of an iPhone 6) when unfolded, and that includes a tendon-like structure, an elastic ridged band, mucosa, smooth muscle, and dense innervation, including fine-touch nerve ending types not even found elsewhere on the body. https://www.littleimages.org/harm

      This is a set of complex structures. “Flap” or “fold of skin” is sadly incorrect, and removing this part of God’s design also removes several functions. It’s great that you don’t have any problems that you notice, but many men do.

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    • Sylvia RN MSN NP-C
      June 24, 2015

      It’s not 1 inch of foreskin. It’s 1/2 of penile tissue, with 20,000+ nerve endings. American men sadly don’t even realize what they are missing. I had to witness a circumcision in nursing school and was sick to my stomach because it was horrific. I was literally sick to my stomach.
      Also, many boys and men are NOT fine- I work ER and have seen many with complications, bleeding, infections, etc. As well as complications later- skin bridges, desensitized thick skin (why do you think the USA has such high viagra use?!). Baby boys in the rest of the world are NOT having to undergo the trauma that American boys are going through.
      Please educate yourself on the issue. If you can watch this entire video, it would be well worth your 30 minutes.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceht-3xu84I

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  17. JoAnn Brant DeGlopper
    July 1, 2015

    I respect your opinions but I don’t think you should condemn those who choose to have their boys circumcised. I had my baby done at 2 months. Cried for maybe 2 minutes. No problems afterwards.30 yrs old now still never a problem. I’ve known men who didn’t have it done and are so completely embarrassed when with a woman. Maybe right or wrong it’s the parents choice. God will not send us to Hell for having it done to our boys.

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  18. Little Images
    June 23, 2015

    If after reading this post you would like to help Heather and Chase in some way beyond spreading the word, please visit the group Fight4Chase (https://www.facebook.com/Fight4Chase).

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  19. elizabeth
    June 23, 2015

    well this is the first i have heard of this. and not once, that i saw, was religion a part of why the judge made this idiotic ruling. this never should have been done and hopefully this little boy will not be forced to undergo this type of surgery. at his age, recovery will be much longer and painful. it’s not needed. but, this is mostly an american practice. no other country, that i know of, circumcises like the US does, other than Isreal and those who are Jewish. also, circumcision in america is not really a religious practice, unless you are Jewish. parents, religious and non religious, circumcise b/c that is what is done here in the US. some don’t even know you can opt not to. when i found out i was pregnant with my son i had many discussions before and after his birth on this practice. i say with my friends it’s about 50/50 and our Jewish pediatrician says it’s that way in his practice and he sees Jewish families choosing to not do it. we chose to do what we did based on what we thought was best for our son. not based on an Old Testament religious practice/covenant that pre-dates the death and resurrection.
    so why the author is chastising Christians on the lack of uproar over this case is puzzling to me. as i said, i’d never heard of it. i would think that anyone (regardless of religion) would be outraged over this. perhaps the author should be taking this passion to news outlets to get the word out to more people regardless of their religious beliefs instead of alienating christians by blaming them for not taking up the battle cry.

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    • littleimages
      June 23, 2015

      Dear Elizabeth: thanks for writing. Pete isn’t chastising Christians – he’s just wondering why those who hear remain silent. The news outlets have covered this case, but many Christians who hear about it are reluctant to say anything, and it may just be for the reasons he suggests. He’s a Christian himself and doesn’t want to alienate others but encourage them.

      In addition, the purpose of Little Images is to perform and publish research specifically for the benefit of the Church. We wouldn’t be very interested in focusing on getting information out to non-Christians. Informing everyone regardless of their religion is a fine goal, but it’s not the purpose of Little Images.

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  20. Pamb Strickland
    June 23, 2015

    The new testament condemns circumcision.
    For references see here: http://www.circumstitions.com/Xy.html

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  21. Susan
    June 23, 2015

    Agree 100% that this is just plain wrong. One suggestion for author however, stop using the word, “Amputation.” Definition of “Amputation,” is removal of a limb, foreskin does not qualify, and use of it seems a bit hystrionic thus damaging credibility IMHO.

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    • Joseph
      June 23, 2015

      Dear Susan,

      Thanks for your feedback! I’m curious, though, which definition you referenced. According to Merriam-Webster, amputation is ‘to remove by or as if by cutting’, and then says the official medical definition is “medical : to cut off (part of a person’s body)”. Being that the foreskin is a distinct part of the body, and circumcision either removes it directly via cutting, or, in the case of the Plastibell procedure, causes its removal as if by cutting, I’d say ‘amputation’ fits the bill.

      That being said, we at Little Images prefer to stay away from many commonly-used buzzwords that might upset certain readers, especially if they are learning about circumcision for the first time. However, the truth, spoken in a kind way, can help people to see things from a different angle.

      Joe

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  22. Renita Hoblit
    June 23, 2015

    I should not even engage in this debate because it is so ridiculous!!! God cares about the state our heart is in not whether you are circumcised or not. This makes me so sad and I’m sure it saddens my Jesus. If you are convincted to not circumcise that’s fine. But that doesn’t mean you should push that idea on others. My boys are circumsized and are quite fine. Have suffered no medical conditions. Have not died from it. I think the ones that have died from it must have been strange cases . I can tell you this from a nurses standpoint that when you are in a nursing home and you have old man in there that have not been circumsised it is the nastiest thing because it gets nasty and infected and is very disgusting to keep clean . in no way do I want to put my son in a position where he is old someone has to touch him that intimately to keep him clean. Also I can say from experience that they did not circumsized one of my sons right and it has been nothing but a pain for him. If he doesn’t keep it clean, it gets very sore and causes much pain. I very much regret that we did not go in and have it redone.

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    • Joseph
      June 23, 2015

      Renita, the basis of the argument against Christians circumcising is that it’s a heart issue. If we choose to circumcise our sons for religious reasons, then we are ignoring Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. If we do it for medical reasons, it’s because we’re trusting American culture over truth. If you read some of our articles, or other information available, you’ll find that ONLY in the United States is circumcision performed on boys for ‘medical reasons’. That should tell us something, but many times, we allow culture to speak louder than the Bible.

      I understand it can be a tough pill to swallow. LI doesn’t want to make anyone feel bad for having done it without knowing it was wrong. We’re trying to shift the cultural paradigm.

      Also, as for the nursing home argument, that only happens in the United States as well. Nurses are taught incorrect information about how to care and clean for the foreskin, and it leads to iatrogenic conditions. The problem lies with education and health policy, not with mens’ bodies.

      I’m sorry your son has to deal with side-effects of his circumcision, by the way. A boy’s intact penis is never supposed to be pulled back to clean. Once it is circumcised, though, you have to make sure the tissue doesn’t try to readhere in a desperate attempt to mend itself. On the bright side, he’ll grow into the skin, and it will benefit him as an adult. A lot of boys seem ‘fine’ with their circumcisions until puberty, when too little skin is left from the surgery to accomodate regular erections. I sincerely hope none of your sons experience this, because as someone who had to deal with it, it’s not fun. I wish every day that this irreparable damage had not been done to me.

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  23. Renita Hoblit
    June 23, 2015

    I also think it is very unfair of you to add little girls in this. Because the Bible doesn’t talk about little girls being circumsized it talks about boys. We should be on the war to fight for the girls. Because that is just downright wrong and it is not biblical as I said.

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    • Joseph
      June 23, 2015

      We at Little Images believe that all children, both boys and girls, are designed by God and are entitled to bodily rights. FGM is a serious issue affecting millions of girls worldwide. As Christians, we are called to take action against things such as this.

      Start here for info on FGM: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/
      Furthermore, many Christians practice FGM in countries where it is common, such as Egypt. It is done for the same reasons (all myths) that Americans circumcise their boys. We contend that social conformity is NOT what God intends us to do, especially when it involves genital modification without express consent.

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    • Pete
      June 23, 2015

      Thanks for writing, Renita. After reading each of your comments, it still seems apparent that you haven’t noted point #2 in this post. And we care very much about protecting little girls. That’s one of our two core issues.

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  24. Renita Hoblit
    July 1, 2015

    I know of adult men who were uncircumcised and struggled their whole life. They wished that they would have been circumcised and by golly their sons were circumsized.
    Hannah Vander Wilt, I didn’t clarify myself about my son. They didn’t cut enough foreskin off leaving him almost uncircumcised. Hence has been our problem..
    What pray tell does the cross and circumcision have to do with anything?? The cross had everything to do with abolishing sin!! Nothing more and nothing less.
    I knew I should have left this alone. You are very much entitled to you religious beliefs. I’m ok with it. I’m not ok with trying to fforce others to believe as you do. I completely believe that if it’s that important to my Jesus that he will reveal it to me.
    Blessings…..

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    • Erin
      December 7, 2015

      Renita, you more than likely know men who were improperly cared for during infancy and childhood which led to their problems. Intact men who are cared for properly meaning their foreskin is never forcibly retracted, no soap is used to clean under the foreskin, and their foreskin was allowed to separate naturally, rarely have problems. Less than 1% of intact men will need to be circumcised when cared for properly. Unfortunately, improper care instructions were given by doctors to forcibly retract the foreskin and clean in infancy years ago. This leads to damage, infection, and pain. Sadly, there are many doctors who still give this terrible advice or forcibly retract babies and young children.

      As far as what the cross and circumcision have to do with one another is simply that biblical circumcision was a blood sacrifice that did not actually remove the entire foreskin like today and did leave the glans covered and protected as God intended but Jesus was the ultimate blood sacrifice. No sacrifice has been or ever will be required again. New Testament verses actually tell us not to circumcise, as does every major medical organization in the world.

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  25. Hans Castorp
    June 25, 2015

    Renita,

    I’m a bit confused.

    You say “My boys are circumsized and are quite fine”.

    But further down, you add: “Also I can say from experience that they did not circumsized one of my sons right and it has been nothing but a pain for him. If he doesn’t keep it clean, it gets very sore and causes much pain. I very much regret that we did not go in and have it redone.”

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    • Joseph
      June 25, 2015

      Hans, that inconsistency is what I believe is at the root of many Christians’ minds as to why they don’t acknowledge the problem of circumcision- to do so would require them to recognize the damage caused by it, and, in many cases, by the damage that was caused, either directly or indirectly, to one’s own children. Nobody wants to admit that they caused permanent damage to someone they love as absolutely as one loves their own child. Because of this, cognitive dissonance comes in and allows for two completely conflicting ideas to exist- in this case, a) my sons are fine, and b)my son was hurt by this. Read more about this at: http://changingminds.org/explanations/theories/cognitive_dissonance.htm

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  26. Jenson
    July 8, 2015

    Wow, sure a lot to learn here!

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  27. Erin
    December 7, 2015

    Sadly, Chase has been circumcised and during the follow up it was discovered he has cancer. He remains in custody of his father and it cost Heather hundreds of dollars per visit just to see him. The legal issues are still going on. Prayers and an end to silence over injustices done to children are needed.

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